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06-01-2004, 07:08 AM
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whats your vote?
so wheres all of your standpoints on the comming election. are you going to vote bush, kerry or whatever? me personally i dont want to vote for bush, but kerry doesnt seem so great to me either. so lets hear it!
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06-01-2004, 07:38 AM
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I think Kerry won't be a good pres...so I'm voting Bush. I think he did a decent job as pres these last 4 years. I would like to see him in office another 4.
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06-01-2004, 08:23 AM
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man bush totally sucked! just one thing i can name which bush did a horrible job in. iraq, just from that was so much. and there are a bunch of other reasons, and yeah i agree with you about kerry too, im not too crazy about him either
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06-01-2004, 06:01 PM
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You live in NYC franics, you've never heard anything but Bush horror stories and look bush is holding a book upside bullshit. I've lived in Boston and Austin, and been in San Diego for a fair amount of time. After reviewing as much available information about them both, I'm going to again vote Bush. Gore was a compulsive liar, if he were making a speech in china town he'd be bhuddist then go to san diego and be catholic, it is a damn good thing he wasn't president through all of the turbulent times we've had. Bush on the other hand while seeming like a dolt, has managed to come up with some of the most astounding economic theories that I have ever seen. Sure he partied in college and did coke and all that shit but think about your parents. They probably did and look how they turned out now.
Kerry, well well, yes he's an american hero, he did what his country called for in time of war, and after getting partially wounded 3 times levied to get himself sent home. No shit, anyone in their right mind would in vietnam. BUT I've lived in Boston long enough to know that Kerry changes his mind every other day about his political stances, and that he is a pretty shady person.
Bush for 2004, trust me, liberal media just tries to make him look like he's mentally handicapped because their pissed their friends aren't in office.
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06-01-2004, 10:49 PM
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the economic theories bush came up with are horrible, the country is in debt now when we started with over a 5trillion was it? i 4get if its billion or trillion, bah whatever it was a lot and now we are in a deficit, i think our money supply dropped 11 trillion with bush's plans and spending. you cant blame the war in iraq though because the money didnt come from there but for all the other spending bush has done plus his tax cuts only bring the nation into more debt. didnt bush promise not to touch the 2.5 or 2.4 (again im forgetting my figures but it was a lot im sure of that) for the SS fund that clinton had set up? but within the first year of bush being in office he spent that money. sure his tax cuts look great for the average joe, but if u do the math who is really earning the big end of the cut? just about the top 20% of the richest people in our nation are keeping just about 50 or 60% of thier taxes now instead of paying it while the rest of us the 80% left have only a little left to divide for the rest of the americans. bush is helping the rich get richer and the poor stay poor. also what about the death tax, i 4get the technical name for it, but thats just the laymans term for it. bush took away that tax saying poor american farmers who will inherit the land once thier parent dies or whatever will have to pay such a large tax that they might have to end up selling the farm to pay off the tax, he said this also applies to small business owners too but yet that has never happened. there is always some way around that if you cannot pay that tax because of financial situation, and in most cases if u are poor enough you dont even have to pay it at all. but remember this also applies to big business' too, so lets say the son or daughter of some multi-billion dollar company that is ridiculously rich, such as bush too had to pay this tax which could mean millions or billions of dollars for them to pay when they inherit the business. since bush took away this tax that took away money which was ment for the gov and the people of america and the money was kept in the pockets of the rich while the less big business owners and farmers taught they were saving too, but actually that tax would rarely affect them in the first place. dont forget about bush taking away taxes from shareholders too i could get more into that but im lazy to explain how, and also companies with an offshore mailbox such as enron for a good example wouldnt have to pay billions in taxes because bush also had millions saved from paying in taxes with the same method. another bad thing about bush is that more americans now do not have jobs, there is a lower unemployment rate than there was durring the great depression. more and more americans now do not have healthcare coverage and most americans coverage is getting so expensive they can barely afford it, or have to cut the coverage because of that. what happened to improving the education system in the united states? hell in new york you will notice big differences between the schools in highclass neighborhoods with a low poplulation and a bigger building than the schools in the ghettos with a larger population, over-crowding, smaller buildings and underfunding. how can a public school in a highclass area afford paying for all new computers, new equipment and books while all the schools in the poor areas stay poor and are getting worse year by year, and dont tell me no because i been in public school and my parents work in differnt schools too. schools get funded by the ammount of students they have for what they need. so obviously to put it simply a school with more students should get more money than a school with a lesser ammount of students. i really think bush did horrible, just the economy the way it is now is doing bad, i dont know about your family's but if you come from a poor family like my family it just gets harder and harder to afford everyday life now.
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06-02-2004, 02:32 AM
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I just dont understand how you can go to war and cut taxes at the same time.
where dose the money come from to pay for the war?
concervatives are just no good at fighting wars
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06-02-2004, 04:52 AM
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conservatives are, but I doubt bush is a conservative....Liberals wouldnt do half the shit this asshole does..
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06-02-2004, 05:11 AM
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OK...you guys haven't answered fransics question...are you voting Bush or Kerry??
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06-02-2004, 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Hollywood
I just dont understand how you can go to war and cut taxes at the same time.
where dose the money come from to pay for the war?
concervatives are just no good at fighting wars
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Well the tax cuts aren't intended to give people more money. They are intended to give people more money so they can spend it on other businesses which have to pay income taxes and their employees get more money which the government earns back in sales taxes as well as when the employee spends the money on a business which then pays the government more income tax. Basically, but cutting taxes at the right percentage, at the right time, the government earns a whole lot more money. Plus this war has made oil cost more, and is procuring a lot of trade deals for the U.S. so in fact the conversatives that "don't know how to fight wars" are making shit loads of money off of this war.
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06-02-2004, 06:40 AM
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Thats a good way of looking at it..
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