How does this Board lean?

[mar3]

OK, I'll mess up the joint first...We all know in that the "big board" leans far to the right, so how do the members here lean? :twisted:

[black rocket]

Well, I'll be voting for Bush.

This country has been adversely manupulated by democrats with media backing them up and it's time to stop that b/s.

Ck the fact out, NAFTA, a product of Clinton Adm. backed by of all the people, Hoffa. Given the corporations to be able to manufacture goods for fraction of the cost resulting in loss of jobs for millions here in U.S.

Let's not forget the Enron fiasco! Another burden added to the dilemma along with E-Commerce which altered conventional marketplace.

That's just a tip of the iceberg.

Do we really need more burden draping upon us? No, I don't think so.

If people really understand what Kerry is talking about and not listen to media opinionated news, you'll see a different picture.

This is a FREE country, but, it is us citizens to advance forward with right decision on 11/03.

[Hollywood]

I am a republican, but Bush it not a very conservative president. when it comes to money he seems to be more liberal then any president we have had in the last 50 years. Bush even had the advantage, he started with a surplus.

[AusTexRex]

Well he started with a surplus which is all the more reason for the economy to drop. Given 4 more years the economy could very well get into a surplus again. At the moment we are the in the middle of a bear market that should last for another 6-8 years in economic theory. It'll jump back up especially when the war is over.

[Shaggy]

I will probably vote for Bush..if I do vote.. ;). I just don't like Kerry's ideas....just doesn't get me excited about him. I think Bush did a good job his 4 years as pres...and I think he will still do a good job for another 4 years.

mar3....you started this poll...what do you think??

[2ROTORMOTOR]

If bush started with a surplus he shoulda kept it that way.. the reps are throwing money around like its all good 100 bil here , 50 bil, there. This is bullshit, imma rep but I got to go against them this election, shit I dont even think imma vote cus I dont really like kerry at all... I dont think that the point of a campaign is to bash your apponent... its for the candidates to express their views and to convince people why it would be beneficial for us to vote for them
( even though people say anything to get elected). So I doubt imma vote for anyone this election....

[2ROTORMOTOR]

O and they need to change the way a president is appointed... the electoral college had its purpose back in the years but serves no purpose now. I understand back in the day when you would find out who was president like a month after he was elected and sometimes you wouldnt even know who the candidates were... but come on its the 21st century now its time for us to have our own pick on who the fukin president is gunna be...

[AusTexRex]

I will probably vote for Bush..if I do vote.. ;). I just don't like Kerry's ideas....just doesn't get me excited about him. I think Bush did a good job his 4 years as pres...and I think he will still do a good job for another 4 years.

mar3....you started this poll...what do you think??
Starting in the dead center of a surplus and maintaining it for 4 years is impossible. Literally. Aside from the fact that congress is spend happy.

[phoenixfc3s]

O and they need to change the way a president is appointed... the electoral college had its purpose back in the years but serves no purpose now. I understand back in the day when you would find out who was president like a month after he was elected and sometimes you wouldnt even know who the candidates were... but come on its the 21st century now its time for us to have our own pick on who the fukin president is gunna be...

The reason there is an electoral college is because the original founding fathers didn't trust the people completely, ie we are a Republic, which is a representative form of democracy and not a pure democracy. If there was no electoral college, the major would win and the minority would be subject to whatever the majority decides, even if the majority is wrong. Like it or not, it's how the original founding fathers intended it to be.

[damnitsfrancis]

i cant vote yet but i wouldnt vote for bush, just simply because he seems to be making too many mistakes with the current war and economy going down. plus lots of attacks on embassys and a disregard for the UN. but i wouldnt vote for kerry too, i really dont like anyone this election, maybe i should read up more but those are the most obvious reasons for me.

[phoenixfc3s]

I'm in the same boat as you damnitsfrancis. Neither Bush nor Kerry really appeals to me, and there is no way I'd vote for Nader. If Nader was elected, he'd probably declare the rotary engine is a "consumer hazard" or something stupid like that and force it off the market. I'm just one of those disenchanted kids, and my vote really doesn't feel like it would matter because I live in Texas, but I'm still going to vote. A vote for either Bush or Kerry is better than no vote at all.

[mar3]

Well, because of the two party system that has the stranglehold in American politics today, I'm voting for Kerry even though I think he's just a Skull and Bones JFK-wannabe...even his wife looks kinda like Jackie Onassis if you think about it. Voting for anybody else puts Bush back in office and as long as the Republicans control the House of Representatives and the Senate, I don't want a Republican President in there, even if he came from TX. I was one of his biggest fans all the way from the Ballpark in Arlington project to the Texas Governor stint. I voted for him as Governor, in fact. Once he got into Office as President, though, he changed. I was still with him, begrudgingly, until he started squawking about Iraq in 2001. That's when he lost me. I got back in the camp after 9/11 and Afghanistan but became entrenched permanently against him when Bush Jr started on the Iraqi thing again. That and his single-minded pursuit to hand over the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge to his oil buddies. :roll:

But, hey! At least there's no one as of 05/07/2004 @ 2314 hrs CST who is planning on an armed civil war in the near future...where the heck does that come from??? 8)

[Hollywood]

what I do not understand, we took over, conquered if you will, a very large oil producing nation. yet gas prices in the US continue to rise.
the oil is ours, we are pumping it, but none of it is comming here, its all going to russia

[Shaggy]

Stupid isn't it....I don't get that either..???

[Hollywood]

93 octane is about 1.95/gl few months ago it was $1.70
but the prce of race gas hasn not changed still 4.50 for 109 octane.
thats supply and demand for you

[2ROTORMOTOR]

acutally what the us is doing, is selling the oil that Iraq produces.. to help cover some of the costs of the rebuilding..... I highly doubt that any oil at all is coming to the U.S. I wouldnt think Bush would be that stupid to start supplying the us with oil as soon as he took it over....We are still getting oil from other mid-eastern countries, but right now Iraq is barely covering its own expenses.... Im sure bush thought that once we took over, that it would be easy as cake..... but by involving other countries shit got alot complicated.... Bush was just worried and didnt want the U.S. to be a rebel and go against the rest of the population by himself... so he involved as many countries as posible..

[Hollywood]

most of that oil is going to russia

[2ROTORMOTOR]

mar3 imma add another option to the poll, if you disapprove let me know ill take it out..

[2ROTORMOTOR]

O and they need to change the way a president is appointed... the electoral college had its purpose back in the years but serves no purpose now. I understand back in the day when you would find out who was president like a month after he was elected and sometimes you wouldnt even know who the candidates were... but come on its the 21st century now its time for us to have our own pick on who the fukin president is gunna be...

The reason there is an electoral college is because the original founding fathers didn't trust the people completely, ie we are a Republic, which is a representative form of democracy and not a pure democracy. If there was no electoral college, the major would win and the minority would be subject to whatever the majority decides, even if the majority is wrong. Like it or not, it's how the original founding fathers intended it to be.

the reason for the electoral college is simple... back in the day the media wasnt as it is now... the people would elect a person to represent them in the election... they would tell the rep. what they want to see happen and the rep voted for the rep accordingly... the electoral college would travel to washington to represent their people..

[mar3]

2ROTORMOTOR...lol...no, the new option is funny as hell and I know I hadn't thought of that angle...

The Electoral College has gotta go...it's time is done in the Age of Information....and somebody tell Rummy to be a man and resign, already... :roll:

[2ROTORMOTOR]

actually they all need to go.... dont get me wrong im a conservative but this whole administration is bullshit and stands so far away from my beliefs that I dont even see the point of having the two major parties, they both are practically the same shit..

[Hollywood]

I think old Rummy is doing a fine job, he is smart and aggressive, he is the kind of guy you want running the military.
as for the treatment of prisoners (humiliation and torture), I see nothing wrong with it, that's just how it is. you have to break these people and you have to get information out of them. that's just war for you. even here in the states at our local correctional facilities humiliation plays a big part. Lining up naked prisoners, so that they can be laughed at is very common here in the states. my degree is in criminal justice & ethics, right up my field of study.

I'd still like to see McCain run for the whitehouse, he is the only member of the GOP thats not kissing the presidents ass!

[AusTexRex]

Oh and by the way I lean to the left usually, sometimes down the right. it really depends on how it falls when I'm putting my pants on.
Politically I scored a 5 on a test where 0 meant conservative and 40 meant liberal.

[Shaggy]

Oh and by the way I lean to the left usually, sometimes down the right. it really depends on how it falls when I'm putting my pants on.
Politically I scored a 5 on a test where 0 meant conservative and 40 meant liberal.

Thanks for letting us know...we really wanted that info.. ;)

[AusTexRex]

Thanks for letting us know...we really wanted that info.. ;)
he asked

[2ROTORMOTOR]

Thanks for letting us know...we really wanted that info.. ;)
he asked

this whole this is getting outta hand