Rotary Shack and other criminals

[1stGenNa4Now]

I have not posted on here for a long time. Its been over a year since I started the overhaul on my rx7. To make a long stressful story short, I understand now why so many people hate rx7's and why they are not around. It seems to me that the people that are knowledgeable on these vehicles want to make it so they are the only ones driving them.
I started my build with a bridgeported 12a engine. I looked around for shops near the area and found a man named Alex Haynoman who from what I heard was really good. I invited him to my home to help me in my build. We put the engine together and it ran. I wasn't familiar with rx7s keep in mind, and I trusted him. When the build was nearly done and I had been paying him as we went I didnt hear back from him. I didnt want to comtinue without him so I found a man name Rodney. He was a preacher at a church my family had attended for some years so I thought I could trust him. I invited him to my home so he could make sure everything was ready to go. He said it was fine and ran it for about 15 minutes. Then he left and I could not get a hold of him. My car then would not start.
I noticed then that my oil cooler was never hooked up. I started again finding a shop in Hanover park Illinois. Where the guys went and towed my car to their shop. Didnt hear back from them for nearly 3 months. I had been sending them money for parts. finaly I decide to head to their shop where my car was. The engine was in but didnt have an intake manifold and he claimed they couldnt get it started with the one I had. I had set my phone down while looking at my car and the next thing I know my phone is missing. In my anger I just asked them to tow it back to my house. They kept offering me trades but I wanted my car not a primered ae86. When I got home I checked my car and it was missing the oil cooler fuel pump and pioneer deck. I tried calling them but no answer.
Finaly I said screw it Ill do it myself. I ordered an oil cooler, intake and radiator from the rotary shack. Its been almost two months and I have not gotten my parts. Just a warning to anyone DO NOT BUY ANYTHING FROM THE ROTARY SHACK!! ROBERT LIVES STOLE MYMONEY AND REFUSES TO SEND MY PARTS!!!!!

Thanks for reading.:D

[Shaggy]

Wow, not a very good experience with your car. I hope it finally works out for you!

[1stGenNa4Now]

Tell me about it. She just sits in the garage now. Like so many other rx7's:cool:

[680rwhp12a]

a good customer directed me to this thread and i would like to address the issue.
Below is the official Better Business Bureau complaint that was filed..





Better Business Bureau
Reference Information
Company ID: 100014073
Complaint ID: 98622267
Open Date: 7/7/2011
Close Date: 10/11/2011

Complaint Details


COMPLAINT DEPARTMENT
P.O. BOX 970
COLTON, CA 92324
PHONE: (909) 835-6064 FAX: (909) 825-6246




Customer Information
Edwin Perez
5842 South 109th Street
Hales Corners, WI 53130


Company Information
Rotary Shack
9344 Oso Avenue, Unit J
Chatsworth, CA 91311
Phone: (818) 576-9191
Fax: (818) 576-9125



Complaint Description - Posted: 7/7/2011
Consumer alleges, On June 14, 2011 I ordered an intake manifold for my car and I was told by the company to purchase a money gram to send payment. I paid $736.00 and I have not received the part. Calls made to the representative to ask about my order have gone unanswered. Please contact me regarding the status of my order. I want the part I ordered or please send me a full refund.
Customers' Desire Settlement - Posted: 7/7/2011
Please contact me regarding the status of my order. I want the part I ordered or please send me a full refund.
Company's Response - Posted: 9/19/2011
Wow!! Really. There is a lot missing here!. This customer bought a custom complete intake kit. E mailed the customer pictures of the finished product. Customer then advised me not to ship the parts. He ordered a custom race all aluminum radiator and he wanted everything to ship at one time. He sent the money for the radiator several weeks later, then the radiator was built. When it was completed, his order shipped. I didn't hear back for several weeks maybe longer. When the customer contacted me, he explained he was in jail and he didn't know where the parts were. When rotaryshack ships parts you need to sign for them, if the person does not sign for them the get returned to the sender.
Consumer's Rebuttal - Posted On: 10/6/2011
Consumer states since the parts already paid for when does he get his parts? He has tried to contact the company but they refuse to speak with because he involved the BBB. His girlfriend lived at the address while he was in jail but she never received the parts. Prior to him going to jail he requested a tracking number but the company denied his request. If the company cannot send the parts he is requesting a full refund.
Company's Final Response - Posted: 10/7/2011
I provided a tracking # via text message per customers request. parts were not signed for and returned to shipper stamped" treat as abandoned, return to sender". As I stated once already, the entire order can be re shipped once shipping is paid. this is a large package so shipping was not cheap the first time(seller covered shipping) so it is fair that I request shipping the second go around. please send $80.00 and your order will ship priority with tracking info. this is a custom made order for this customer so there are no refunds!!!! please read the disclaimer on the website. thank you
Additional Information
Primary Complaint Type:
Date Problem First Occurred: 7/5/2011
Date Purchased: 6/14/2011
Product or Service: General Auto Repair Services
Model Name or Number:
Invoice Number:
Amount Paid: $736.00
Status: Closed
Response Term:

[680rwhp12a]

i would also like to add that after the complaint was closed out we did keep in contact by phone, and text. He agreed to pay the shipping and gave me an alternate address to ship the parts but never sent the money to re-ship the products. i have tried contacting him and have not gotten a response in quite some time.I sent a letter to both addresses i have and have not received a response either. im afraid he might have gone back to jail again. regardless, Edwin i have your parts and they are ready to ship .

Rotaryshack has a worldwide customer base stretching all the way to Norway, Finland,Australia, Russia,New Zealand, Canada,Puerto Rico, to name a few and most are satisfied repeat customers . i must say reading some of their comments i get from them on my Facebook can be quite a challenge! i try my best to keep everybody happy but im not perfect, i do constantly strive to improve and will continue to do so. rotary love is in my blood and im not going anywhere!!! happy new year!!!!

[Bartste]

I also bought parts from Rotary Shack, at first he answered quickly, then no answer and I never received my parts, yet everything is paid for a long time!

Yet I see here that it has internet access, but he refuses to respond to mails ...
I will try facebook to complet the transaction

[680rwhp12a]

I also bought parts from Rotary Shack, at first he answered quickly, then no answer and I never received my parts, yet everything is paid for a long time!

Yet I see here that it has internet access, but he refuses to respond to mails ...
I will try facebook to complet the transaction



pm sent. thank you and happy new year

[Bartste]

Hi Robert! PM replied;-)

About my business with Robert, I have not received anything yet but we managed to communicate, the package is stuck somewhere between America and Switzerland :-(
I hope we find a solution soon ...

Robert was having problems e-mail appears, now it's fixed.

[TENAZ]

Hi Robert! PM replied;-)

About my business with Robert, I have not received anything yet but we managed to communicate, the package is stuck somewhere between America and Switzerland :-(
I hope we find a solution soon ...

Robert was having problems e-mail appears, now it's fixed.


I'd like to believe it .... like I did last year
in court with him for a FRAUD Case.
We got an agreement but never he fullfit his part making the payments....
Now since September 15th 2011 we got a judgment against him and his business for $5,300.00

[jm1fb33]

have not bin on rx7club for little while----is he still band for the same bullshit

[680rwhp12a]

I'd like to believe it .... like I did last year
in court with him for a FRAUD Case.
We got an agreement but never he fullfit his part making the payments....
Now since September 15th 2011 we got a judgment against him and his business for $5,300.00

i really hope your kidding..
you meant to say you filed a lawsuit against me two years ago for $23,000 for fraud(you claimed i took your money and gave you your car back in pieces wich was b.s. ... you left a lot out to say the least , lol) and a day before our trial began your lawsuit had fizzled down to breech of contract and in our last mandatory settlement conference you settled on $5,300. but there was conditions on the settlement agreement, notice i didn't say judgment.... yes it was a mutual settlement agreement, that had stipulations.... that you agreed on, and did not abide to.. one was the settlement agreement was confidential .. what did you do, ? not keep it confidential,posting your crap lies on the forums, thereby loosing any chance of ever getting anything..... so now you get nothing and you opened yourself up for another lawsuit against yourself..... how far will you go?

to see all the latest projects that rotaryshack is working on find us on facebook and like us.. lots of cool projects and lots in the mix!! i would like to thank all the loyal rotaryshack customers for sticking by me and i appreciate it!

[TENAZ]

i really hope your kidding..
you meant to say you filed a lawsuit against me two years ago for $23,000 for fraud(you claimed i took your money and gave you your car back in pieces wich was b.s. ... you left a lot out to say the least , lol) and a day before our trial began your lawsuit had fizzled down to breech of contract and in our last mandatory settlement conference you settled on $5,300. but there was conditions on the settlement agreement, notice i didn't say judgment.... yes it was a mutual settlement agreement, that had stipulations.... that you agreed on, and did not abide to.. one was the settlement agreement was confidential .. what did you do, ? not keep it confidential,posting your crap lies on the forums, thereby loosing any chance of ever getting anything..... so now you get nothing and you opened yourself up for another lawsuit against yourself..... how far will you go?

to see all the latest projects that rotaryshack is working on find us on facebook and like us.. lots of cool projects and lots in the mix!! i would like to thank all the loyal rotaryshack customers for sticking by me and i appreciate it!

yes it was a mutual settlement agreement, that had stipulations.... that you agreed on, and did not abide to.. one was the settlement agreement was confidential .. what did you do, ?

Yeah I remember we had an stipulation and having confidential .. You are the one that failed to comply and make the payments to the Attorney.
You broke it .Then For we have a Judgment against You ....right there the Confidential ended because you broke it. Rememeber the case involves Fraud and I know none has come this far as myself but at least the rotary community knows you.. not lies is the true..
By the way Why you didn't make the payments...?
Please tell the Rx7forum community what type of defense you are using to avoid those payments..? Tell the true no more lies...

[680rwhp12a]

are you really going there? FINE

look at your confirmed copy of the settlement agreement, it states plaintiffs counsel will provide a mutual release with a confidentiality provision to the defendant by april 12. defendant was to return signed release to plaintiffs counsel by april 19. when did you sign the settlement agreement? not until may 20. i signed it way before you did!! and i went to Mr millers office to do so.. question.. why would i make payments on a settlement agreement you didn't sign until after i was supposed to make payments? according to the court you should have signed the settle agreement and had a conformed copy by april 19. how is that possible when you did not sign the settlement agreement until may 20 ?

i could go on and on.....

[TENAZ]

are you really going there? FINE

look at your confirmed copy of the settlement agreement, it states plaintiffs counsel will provide a mutual release with a confidentiality provision to the defendant by april 12. defendant was to return signed release to plaintiffs counsel by april 19. when did you sign the settlement agreement? not until may 20. i signed it way before you did!! and i went to Mr millers office to do so.. question.. why would i make payments on a settlement agreement you didn't sign until after i was supposed to make payments? according to the court you should have signed the settle agreement and had a conformed copy by april 19. how is that possible when you did not sign the settlement agreement until may 20 ?

i could go on and on.....

Yes I remember well ...even me and Jonathan wish you luck because You got your license from the Bureau.

why would i make payments on a settlement agreement you didn't sign until after i was supposed to make payments? according to the court you should have signed the settle agreement and had a conformed copy by april 19. how is that possible when you did not sign the settlement agreement until may 20 ?

All this has been taking care
The documents has been signed after. You Know,the attorney knows,Jonathan knows ,but after May 20 why you didn't make the payments...? You haven't answer my question.
Do You want to reconsider ...?
*Contact The Attorney leave him a collateral for the money you owe us and start making the payments.*
"You do that and I come here and I state it and
also in the RX7 club"

Please no more lame excuses

[680rwhp12a]

are you really going there? FINE

look at your confirmed copy of the settlement agreement, it states plaintiffs counsel will provide a mutual release with a confidentiality provision to the defendant by april 12. defendant was to return signed release to plaintiffs counsel by april 19. when did you sign the settlement agreement? not until may 20. i signed it way before you did!! and i went to Mr millers office to do so.. question.. why would i make payments on a settlement agreement you didn't sign until after i was supposed to make payments? according to the court you should have signed the settle agreement and had a conformed copy by april 19. how is that possible when you did not sign the settlement agreement until may 20 ?

i could go on and on.....

You failed to answer any of the questions above. Please address the questions without unnecessary chatter. Please answer truthfully and accurately.

Thank you

[TENAZ]

You failed to answer any of the questions above. Please address the questions without unnecessary chatter. Please answer truthfully and accurately.

Thank you

Robert you start play your games again.
Perhaps You can ask that question directly to the attorney directly and the Judge that gives us The Judgment against you

You failed to start making the payments thats why we got a judgment against you.Thats the simple True.

THE JUDGMENT FOR YOU INFORMATION IS A PUBLIC RECORD.

[rx7roller02]

wow, Robert, this is how you try to clear your name?? By half-truths and dodging the point??

1--IT IS A JUDGMENT. When you are sued, and you enter into a settlement, it is called a STIPULATED JUDGMENT. You signed it. You agreed that you were AT FAULT by signing it. Why try to pretend now?

2--it doesnt matter what the final settlement amount was--settling is more common in lawsuits than for the case to go all the way to judge's verdict. What DOES matter is that you were in the wrong. You ADMITTED being in the wrong. You agreed to pay this man some of what you owe him. And this pathetic attempt at trying to get out of paying is, well, just that--pathetic. How in the hell can you come in here and proclaim that you are a man who takes care of business when you go looking for a technicality to get out of paying what YOU AGREED TO PAY? What good is your word, Robert, when even to try to defend yourself the best you can do is look for a technicality, a loophole, so that you think youre justified in not paying what you promised????

I was involved, as you remember....from the beginning. I saw every word, every post. I read the emails you sent me trying to clear your name. I gave you MORE than the benefit of the doubt. Kerebrus tried to speak on your behalf. I patiently tried to find a way to speak with YOU and not a go-between. Finally, you emailed me. And your emails contradicted THEMSELVES. Thats right--you were fine dealing with me until I caught you lying about the issue...then all you could do at that point was talk trash about me. ADDRESS THE ISSUE and stop trying to distract from your dishonesty!!!

What about the scores of other people, Robert? I still get an occasional email or PM from the forum about "can you help me, Rotary Shack took my money and didnt send parts".....I heard from a guy in December, from Central America...he had to spend money to begin the process of legal action against you, he tells me, for you to send him the rest of his turbo kit. He paid you over $4000, and you only sent him a portion of the order. He finally got his order completed after threatening to take action. I could go on and on, Robert, but you cannot lie your way out of so many complaints. This is absolutely pathetic! So many complaints--and the way you handle each one is to say "they are lying". Are ALL THESE CUSTOMERS teaming up to lie about you?? Sorry, no, that isnt the case. Hell, you lied to ME in the process of trying to handle the issues with Tenaz. You made repeated claims about what parts you still had of his, what parts you didnt....what you had already given him back and then suddenly two months later, you said "I have ____ I will get it to you"--the same part you already claimed to have returned to him. You have not at all been honest, and that is why you were kicked off the other forum. I would know--I had a hand it doing it.

You can lie to people all you want, it doesnt matter. you can show satisfied customers all you want, it doesnt matter. What DOES matter is the high number of UNSATISFIED customers you have. When someone has been waiting months, or even YEARS for what they paid you for, they dont give a damn if you have a good BBB or ebay feedback!!! THEY JUST WANT YOU TO HANDLE YOUR BUSINESS WITH THEM. Stop making excuses, stop looking for loopholes that you think justify your failure to honor your word, and FIX THIS STUFF.

I wouldnt send you three wooden nickels if you were the last rotary shop in existence. Oh, and congratulations about finally getting your permit--at least now you can be held more accountable by the state for when you screw people over. I wonder how many victims you have shafted over the years when you were not even legally operating....another reason why you have no business being in business. If someone is willing to be that dishonest that they cannot even pay for a permit, then they shouldnt be operating--especially with the amount of money you have stolen from people over those years.

And before you try to spout off some nonsense, I am not some kid that you scammed. I know the truth about you. I dealt with you personally and watched you lie to my face. And when I called you on it, all you could do was talk trash, instead of addressing your actions. No surprise that you dont have the stones to address your actions now...


EDIT--when tenaz signed the agreement doesnt void it, chief....unless a judge tells you that, it is still valid. So stop making excuses and pay up.

[680rwhp12a]

rx7roller .........
1.........
Im not trying to clear my name, simply stating facts.. cold hard facts... not hearsay,or second hand information.... that's the stuff your spewing all over the web... you really go above and beyond when your trying to win.... gotta give you credit for that!! guess what, your still loosing!!!!
talk about abusing your authority as a moderator on the has been forum, you excel!! making it a sticky that there was no good feedback to be posted about my company in the good guy section, that was interesting.... deleting any positive feedback and banning the forum member was even more interesting... i enjoy it! Now, your moving , and modifying the feedback from the resurrected threads in the good guy section for more entertainment, LOVE IT!! keep it up!
funny thing is im friends with a few of the mods and they do not approve of what you do and you have been put on vacation for your actions, not against me , keep me out of it!! you know what im talking about... thats all i can say about that subject .....

you must have come here looking for redemption .... your plain getting beaten to death in any political thread you post in at the has been forum ... your not as smart as you think you are, SIMPLE FACTS..

Rotaryshack thankfully is busier than ever, i still have lots of new and repeat customers on the has been forum as well as several other forums.... main reason, the quality of the parts and the tech support comes with the purchase.. something you will never comprehend .. our facebook page is just a small glimpse of what we have going on at the shack! i am very grateful and i do my best to keep everybody satisfied.. nobody is perfect and im included, however i strive to improve and will continue to do so.. i embrace the challenge! a business that rips people off these days wont last a year, get a clue guy!! i have been serving the rotary community for 20 years and will continue to do so for another 40 years!!! GET IT
the ratio of satisfied customers out weighs the unsatisfied customers at a rate of 1,000- 1 but it bothers me and i am always open to make amends, no matter what it takes .. this is the main reason im thriving.. i go out of my way to contact these people and make things right, usually i do, again, im not perfect but i do make a good effort ....please stop.. if they have a problem i will be glad to take care of them, just send them my way! instead of instigating why don't you help ? try doing something positive. you will feel better .. seriously..

and as far as Tenaz, you had no part of the transaction, nor were you there for the many court dates, etc. etc. , so please let him answer the direct questions i asked him and please don't rant about other people, bla. bla, bla..



2....

obviously your not a lawyer or do you have any common sense by your reply..... a settlement agreement does not mean either party is admitting guilt stupid, it merely means just what it states.. mutual settlement agreement.. there are many deciding factors when this is the outcome of a lawsuit, none of witch you would understand at your IQ level... more simple hard facts... he had a lawyer , i did not....(its called pro per) i fought this case on my own in the "big court" ... how could he not win if i was guilty as you state? its real simple, they had no case!!! how was it that me, an average individual person was able to avoid a serious criminal judgment of fraud if it was true when i was up against plaintiffs counsel ??


3..........

your quote...
"Oh, and congratulations about finally getting your permit--at least now you can be held more accountable by the state for when you screw people over."

if you had any idea how many city/ state agency's, permits and regulations the state of California requires you would realize how stupid your statement sounds!!! i have a wall full of permits, and licensing ..... California is one of the hardest states to operate a business in legally and almost impossible for any length illegally.... we get city/ state inspectors that come through weekly , one of the reasons our state is broke...



4......


quote
"EDIT--when tenaz signed the agreement doesnt void it, chief....unless a judge tells you that, it is still valid. So stop making excuses and pay up."

it defiantly does not void it for either party... for now he has a default judgment, there are many different types of judgments, the default judgment being the easiest to overturn ...Tenaz will be served with court documents soon and we will be back in court... at the rate he is going, he will end up paying in the end.. don't forget, i was counter-suing him..... and he is liable, along with court sanctions....i could go on and on, but im tired .. big day at the shack tomorrow!!

oh and P.S. , when you reply to this post please don't dissect it like you usually do.. try to act like your educated.. form paragraphs, proper sentences... you can number your paragraphs like you did, i did the same to make it easier for you... another tip, stick to the facts, don't wander, stay focused and keep it short. that's what will keep your audience coming back for more ..

[Kerebrus]

This has definitely been a good read. I can see the TENAZ still speaks like a four year old with no regard for anything he says. It's sad to now see rx7r0ller over here lecturing again on TENAZ's behalf. At the end of the day, TENAZ was an inexperienced driver when it comes to high performance parts and was the sole reason his motor blew. He can try to blame Rotary Shack all he wants, but many RX-7 owners with high performance engine builds at least know on some level how their car needs to be handled, especially in the breaking in period of the motor just being completed.

To rx7r0ller, you can hate on Rotary Shack for as long as you live and waste your time trying to defend your beliefs as well as TENAZ's, but when it all comes down to it, Rotary Shack is flourishing. With having the website, eBay store, Facebook page and local business, things have not been better. As the years go by, Rotary Shack continues to serve the Rotary community not just domestically, but internationally as well. It can be very hard to run a company such as this, completely by yourself, and cater to everyone's requests on a daily basis. I do my best to help run the website, eBay store and Facebook page to ensure that all purchases are handled accordingly. Yes, on occasion some customer's experience delays in receiving their order. However, with proper communication on a daily basis, every customer ends up being more than satisfied with the products they receive. Rotary Shack will continue to gain new customers as well as take care of ones that have been around for many years now. If you and TENAZ would like to live in the past, constantly bringing up instances that occurred years ago, most of which you will not see happen today, then that is your choice. Considering you banned me for 2 years from the RX7Club for simply trying to defend Rotary Shack and assist customers that were having issues with not receiving the parts, just shows how immature and low you are. One day you will realize that you are just a power craving mod who spends way too much time digging into others business.

[TENAZ]

Look who is here The RS's Stooge. "Kerebrus"
Let me ask you are you still doing favors to RS in exchange so you can have you car repair properly..?

How many HP cars do you have ..?
Lets see I do have 1 FB,1 FD and STI an I know how to take of my HP cars because I do have a profesional mechanic that takes care of them.
Yes I did a Big Mistake Hiring and trusting RS my cars and never ever will happen again .The rotary community knows already about him.
Simple question what Business come and act like RS does ...?
The answer is simple none.
Kerebrus "Kid" Grow up..

[Kerebrus]

Look who is here The RS's Stooge. "Kerebrus"
Let me ask you are you still doing favors to RS in exchange so you can have you car repair properly..?

How many HP cars do you have ..?
Lets see I do have 1 FB,1 FD and STI an I know how to take of my HP cars because I do have a profesional mechanic that takes care of them.
Yes I did a Big Mistake Hiring and trusting RS my cars and never ever will happen again .The rotary community knows already about him.
Simple question what Business come and act like RS does ...?
The answer is simple none.
Kerebrus "Kid" Grow up..

There are no favors done for anyone. I help Rotary Shack mainly because the owner and my family go way back since they were young. My step-dad and his sister and brother have all owned RX-7's that were taken care of for many years because of Rotary Shack's efforts. Having a professional mechanic doesn't justify the owner of the car not knowing how to take care of their own car. Any smart car owner that has a car with any high performance modifications to it, big or small, knows that many of these upgrades don't come with special warranty, that's what disclaimers are for.

Any form of racing, or very hard driving puts extreme loads on all parts. Any part(s) used in a race car/or high load capacity carries the basic no warranty of any kind and are sold "AS IS". Any implied warranties of fitting a particular application are denied. The purchaser and/or end user acknowledges they are fully responsible for any and all costs of replacing or repairing any part for any reason. If the purchaser is not to be the end user, then purchaser assumes all responsibility, expressed or implied, of all subsequent users of parts supplied by/thru ROTARYSHACK. Purchaser also assumes ALL responsibility/risks for anything that might change/make illegal the use of the vehicle on public roads.

I'd have to say that 99% of all car shops that sell high performance parts have disclaimers such as this one. Regardless if what happened to your car was through parts purchased at Rotary Shack, the same end result would have occurred even if you had gone through someone else. Car shop owners and mechanics will not allow themselves to be held responsible because you did not drive your car properly after having a new high performance engine installed. You are at fault, 100%, for what happened and should be held responsible for everything. The only real case you had against Rotary Shack was the length of time it took for the job to be completed, but that is completely separate from you ruining your car.

You can call me a "kid" but in reality the word suites you best. You have wasted so much time and money on going after Rotary Shack when at the end of the day you are the only one losing here. As stated in my previous post, Rotary Shack's business continues to flourish each month with more and more new customers as well as old customers returning for the EXCELLENT customer service and support that is offered. Rotary Shack has gone out of it's way to help customers across the world, and your efforts to try and make the company look bad will never become a reality. Continue wasting your time and money, you only live once :).

[TENAZ]

I don't want to come here and start wasting my time talking what happened on my car in the past,But remember:
1.- Your Friend charged me for a porting Job he never did and he charged me $600 I believe. Right there is Fraud. :o
2.- He took off the OEM ECU from my car wihout my authorization what do call that..? :o
3.- FY Information my car was not be designed to be Track Car.
(This is the excuse that Robert tried to use and teach you) :o
No matter what he said or you said.Thats my true and someone that cheats never will get a good business.
You can promote,advertise,refer,help RS None stop you doing that.
Is worth it..?

You are not going to teach me lessons on HP cars.
I know how to take care of them.
I drove HP cars when you even were born.
I do enjoyed driving my FB,FD and my STI and I know you live once not Twice.About the money I loose already on this case no matter money come and goes.All this Is about right and wrong Thats all.

[680rwhp12a]

I don't want to come here and start wasting my time talking what happened on my car in the past,But remember:
1.- Your Friend charged me for a porting Job he never did and he charged me $600 I believe. Right there is Fraud. :o
2.- He took off the OEM ECU from my car wihout my authorization what do call that..? :o
3.- FY Information my car was not be designed to be Track Car.
(This is the excuse that Robert tried to use and teach you) :o
No matter what he said or you said.Thats my true and someone that cheats never will get a good business.
You can promote,advertise,refer,help RS None stop you doing that.
Is worth it..?

You are not going to teach me lessons on HP cars.
I know how to take care of them.
I drove HP cars when you even were born.
I do enjoyed driving my FB,FD and my STI and I know you live once not Twice.About the money I loose already on this case no matter money come and goes.All this Is about right and wrong Thats all.


ok Tenaz , let me enlighten you with short, simple facts, not gibberish hearsay

1 this statement would be called hearsay, not fraud by any means... just because someone else told you your engine was not ported does not mean that in actuality that is was not ported. I can attest that your engine was in fact ported without any doubt! I have pictures to prove it and you were present in those pictures, and i have a expert witness also present in those pictures that will concur that the motor was in fact ported! your engine was not stock in many ways, !!

2 if you recall you had your other mechanic remove the engine before delivering it to Rotaryshack for the new engine to be installed. The original engine, ecu, wiring, AC, radiator, oil cooler, and power steering were gone when your car arrived , this is a fact! i have pictures of how the car arrived to my shop. another fact is since you were converting from EFI to a carburated system using the factory distributor there would be no reason for the factory ECU so why you brought this up is completely irrelevant. a factory GSL-SE ECU is almost worthless.. and completely useless in your application.

3 You are correct, your car was built to be a street car, with quick spool up, low boost and good throttle response that was to be driven on pump gas. this is why your engine's porting was very mild.. Your engine was ported but by no comparison a big port compared to what a track cars porting would have. why don't you understand this concept? another fact. the race cars i build win highly competitive races and set records.THERE IS A REASON FOR THIS!!

i will end this reply with a few links that you should read, and please , go to night school and take some English classes. it was your choice to move to the USA, please respect it and learn to read, comprehend and write properly..


and lastly, you state your not interested in money, just the truth . or what i like to think(my opinion), the warped sense of truth you might actually believe.... however your actions speak louder than your words....it seems like your always ranting about monies you state are owed to you and all the comments you make in any thread you post in are not factual, nor do they help the public accurately and truthfully ...
do you understand what i am saying? A public forum is there to help people, in one way or another. i have supported the rotary community for many years by providing accurate factual technical information saving many rx owners money in diagnosing as well as preventing them from buying parts they didn't need. free, yes at no personal gains, simply a helpful service to the community.. a concept that i don't think you will ever understand sadly....

still waiting for an accurate factual reply to post #13 that you did not directly answer with facts. please answer the questions . thank you


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hearsay

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraud

[TENAZ]

I trusted you my car and you scammed me...That happened don't come and start change things around ..... Why I have to make it up...?
I'm the customer Your actions don't help you.
Perhaps I'm not speak good english but at least I make my money in a good and honest way.
You already have a good reputation scaming People thats its been proof in the rx7club.com and you been Banned as a Vendor.
No company that is in business acts like yours.
Are you accepting Crediit Cards now..? Or you still accepting cash and paypal only..?

Since You are born here as American Why don't go to the University and take some Business Administration classes.. and get you degree ?
So you know how to do manage your business


About The case we had with you You agree to pay then you didn't pay or try to be smart.Thats why we have the Judgment against you .The JUDGE gave it to us.If you want your answer go and asks the Judge directly .:)
Whatever you do... Remember the Judgment is a Public Record. I believe it last 10 years.:o

FYi everytime you put something... you hurt yourself ....Not me I'm a person you are the owner of a want to be business... don't you get it ..do you..?
I believe people are not ignorants here.They know whos is right and whos is wrong
Even the moderator from the RX7 club came here to Uncover you.
About the money I lost....Remember what I told you in the RX7 Club long time ago that I will post my experience that I had with you .. So no other member will suffer or loss money with you

Think How much money have you lost already ..?
Maybe Its more than the money you owe me ....

[680rwhp12a]

I trusted you my car and you scammed me...That happened don't come and start change things around ..... Why I have to make it up...?
I'm the customer Your actions don't help you.
Perhaps I'm not speak good english but at least I make my money in a good and honest way.
You already have a good reputation scaming People thats its been proof in the rx7club.com and you been Banned as a Vendor.
No company that is in business acts like yours.
Are you accepting Crediit Cards now..? Or you still accepting cash and paypal only..?

Since You are born here as American Why don't go to the University and take some Business Administration classes.. and get you degree ?
So you know how to do manage your business


About The case we had with you You agree to pay then you didn't pay or try to be smart.Thats why we have the Judgment against you .The JUDGE gave it to us.If you want your answer go and asks the Judge directly .:)
Whatever you do... Remember the Judgment is a Public Record. I believe it last 10 years.:o

FYi everytime you put something... you hurt yourself ....Not me I'm a person you are the owner of a want to be business... don't you get it ..do you..?
I believe people are not ignorants here.They know whos is right and whos is wrong
Even the moderator from the RX7 club came here to Uncover you.
About the money I lost....Remember what I told you in the RX7 Club long time ago that I will post my experience that I had with you .. So no other member will suffer or loss money with you

Think How much money have you lost already ..?
Maybe Its more than the money you owe me ....

this is what we are dealing with guys......


i rest me case. the rest is history!

[Kerebrus]

I trusted you my car and you scammed me...That happened don't come and start change things around ..... Why I have to make it up...?
I'm the customer Your actions don't help you.
Perhaps I'm not speak good english but at least I make my money in a good and honest way.
You already have a good reputation scaming People thats its been proof in the rx7club.com and you been Banned as a Vendor.
No company that is in business acts like yours.
Are you accepting Crediit Cards now..? Or you still accepting cash and paypal only..?

Since You are born here as American Why don't go to the University and take some Business Administration classes.. and get you degree ?
So you know how to do manage your business


About The case we had with you You agree to pay then you didn't pay or try to be smart.Thats why we have the Judgment against you .The JUDGE gave it to us.If you want your answer go and asks the Judge directly .:)
Whatever you do... Remember the Judgment is a Public Record. I believe it last 10 years.:o

FYi everytime you put something... you hurt yourself ....Not me I'm a person you are the owner of a want to be business... don't you get it ..do you..?
I believe people are not ignorants here.They know whos is right and whos is wrong
Even the moderator from the RX7 club came here to Uncover you.
About the money I lost....Remember what I told you in the RX7 Club long time ago that I will post my experience that I had with you .. So no other member will suffer or loss money with you

Think How much money have you lost already ..?
Maybe Its more than the money you owe me ....

RotaryShack and myself were only banned from RX7Club because rx7r0ller is a power hungry mod that abuses his abilities as a mod (for which his access was stripped for a period of time). Why do you think none of the other mods or even the forum owner ever banned RotaryShack? Simply because there wasn't a reason to. Rx7r0ller obviously sits at home everyday on forums and writes novels about his opinion on everything, sounds like a cool guy :cool:.

RotaryShack has business licenses, BBB credited, PayPal business verified and credited, and more. All of these allow the business to be ran and ran the proper way one should. You turned your unfortunate incident into "fraud" because you had nothing else to do about it, being that it was your fault in the first place. You say your engine was never ported, I just looked at a few pictures of you standing next to your motor SMILING :D and you can clearly see the porting detail on the exhaust ports. You continue to lie and seek help by making everyone feel bad for you but unfortunately it's rather pathetic.

Please keep posting your "experiences" and bashing RotaryShack, it's entertaining to watch simply because you're accomplishing nothing. "Think how much money you have lost already..?" You should rephrase this statement to "Think how much money you have GAINED despite me bashing your company day in and day out." That's the truth. I've said it before and I'll say it again, RotaryShack continues to grow gaining new and old business every single day. All of your efforts are a complete waste of time and do nothing. For every one person (like yourself) that bashes RotaryShack and cries of a poor experience, there are 100 people who will say otherwise, say things such as "RotaryShack is a great business to go to for Rotary parts, technical help and an all around fun place to be."

RotaryShack and myself will be back on the RX7Club very soon and also be granted the ability to clear up any customer issues from the past if need be (excluding yours because you are helpless). Not only that, we will be granted the restriction of rx7r0ller banning us just because. See you soon! :p

[TENAZ]

RotaryShack continues to grow gaining new and old business every single day

Ohhh ...yes thats why he doesn't pay me the Money he owes me..?

Oh let me ask you what has he done to avoid those payments..?

Or perhaps should I put the paper the attorney gave me as the excuse used to avoid payment...?

And then lets see whos is liyng.:)


Kerebrus you still Young ...Kid think ... Are you doing all this because RotaryShack is fixing your car for free...?

I remember in the past you gave RS a laptop for payment to have fix your car.
For last I don't need to lie on this. Why I have to ...?:cool:

[Kerebrus]

RotaryShack continues to grow gaining new and old business every single day

Ohhh ...yes thats why he doesn't pay me the Money he owes me..?

Oh let me ask you what has he done to avoid those payments..?

Or perhaps should I put the paper the attorney gave me as the excuse used to avoid payment...?

And then lets see whos is liyng.:)


Kerebrus you still Young ...Kid think ... Are you doing all this because RotaryShack is fixing your car for free...?

I remember in the past you gave RS a laptop for payment to have fix your car.
For last I don't need to lie on this. Why I have to ...?:cool:

Anyone would avoid paying someone who constantly lies and creates stories to make the court and others believe that he/she was a victim of fraud when in reality he/she is at fault for what happened to their car. You keep saying I'm young and a kid, but last time I checked, 24 isn't what most people would define as a "kid". Not to mention, I'm pretty sure I'm a lot more knowledgeable than you when it comes to many things, such as grammar and forum etiquette. My relationship with RotaryShack and the fact that I help manage the website and eBay store has nothing to do with you or my car, just another excuse you try to come up that has nothing to do with anything in this thread. Also, so answer your question, I do not get 100% free work. I pay for my parts and labor plenty of times, just like others do. Who cares if I was able to get RotaryShack a laptop at a discounted price because of where I worked? Another irrelevant piece of information that has nothing to do with anything. Stop avoiding all the details and facts that myself and Robert put out there and start realizing the truth. Once that happens, you will be much better off :).

Here's a fun fact for you..

For every single post you write bashing RotaryShack and telling people to stay away, 3 people purchase something from RotaryShack and receive a positive experience from start to finish of the sale, not to mention FREE tech support and advise via email and over the phone.

Cheers!

[TENAZ]

Good on Grammar or not I make myself understand.
You are a RS "Puppet".

Who cares what you said...Personally I can careless .

You are repeating words like a Parrot what Robert said already to promote his business and accusing me of lying.

Look these people from the RX7 club.com also are lying like me :
1.-bbmac
Spinner
Trader Score: (0)
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: calgary
Posts: 146 Terrible experience with Rotary shack. I would agree with the previous posting for those that have received their parts; it was a fluke.

I waited for 2 years to get my parts and got excuses ranging from I was away on holidays, He had Jury duty to having the gall to tell me he had sent the parts but they were stuck in customs(funny thing is he wouldn't give a tracking number). I finally flew down from Canada to Socal to get my 2500 dollars worth of parts. Upon arriving at Roberts shop, my parts were just sitting on his bench and he proceeded to show me around his shop and bragged about other orders he had not shipped. IE. A motor for a customer in Norway that had been waiting for their motor for a year all because he said he didn't like to ship parts he told me.


Oh and did I see a cent for my rental car, plane ticket, hotel or the prepaid shipping?? Nope, the best he could come up with is he told my buddy and I that Chatsworth county was the porn capital of the world and asked us if we wanted some dildos. True story...
Bottom line He is lazy, dishonest, Manipulative and no matter how the fit and finish of his products that doesn't excuse his lack of respect for his customers. He can rot in my opinion.

My 2 cents.

Brydon

2.-The Wankler
FKITALL
Trader Score: (14)
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Dublin Ca.
Posts: 3,589 Quote:
Originally Posted by JDMGtdriver
I wish I would have known this sooner, they suck ass he sold me two used NA S4 long blocks that had water seal leaks and apex seal carbon lock. Never deal with them...

Sold me a bogus T2 engine as well, and still owes me a 12a but I gave up on that one a long time ago.
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3.-85Gen1
Spinner
Trader Score: (0)
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Jericho, Vermont
Posts: 116 to update everyone i took the carb apart yesterday because carb isnt running correctly with boost and the ammount of gunk and grime in it was un acceptable. the carb i sent him was spotless. the car was perfetly maintained and that carb i sent was brand new more or less. he sent me a completely diffrent carb and i have a feeling my good carb is sitting on his shelf...
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4.-JDMGtdriver
BOOBOO CACHU!!!
Trader Score: (3)
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Phillips Ranch/Pomona, Ca
Posts: 555

I filed a BBB report with his company and waiting for results..RX8 and two S4 long blocks both crap and came from him...lets see how it goes
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5.-Lynch
Trader Score: (1)
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Canada, Ontario
Posts: 263 paid for a gsl-se gas tank since october 10 & haven't received it yet. numerous phone calls to him but never got back to me.
never again rob @ rotaryshack.

.....and many more..



This is my advise to you Kid:
Is not late yet since you are born here don't get stuck,You can do better.
Get you Bachelor or proper degree and be someone in live. :) you have the time yet, I tell you this because I have 2 nephews younger than you and they both have Master degree already.

[Kerebrus]

Two nephews younger than me that both have master's degrees? Of course you know it normally takes 6 -10 years to obtain a masters past a BA so these kids must be geniuses that graduated high school at the age of 15! You are so full of lies it's funny. Here's some more fun stuff for you to read :).

Also, what does this mean? I can't understand gibberish!

"Get you Bachelor or proper degree and be someone in live." << :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/9574/rsfeedback.png

You live in the past and keep bringing up OLD NEWS. All the feedback above is from people making purchases within that last 30 DAYS. Get with the times buddy! This is a battle you cannot win, especially when you are a pathological liar and can't see it for yourself.

[680rwhp12a]

should i start copying and pasting from all the threads in the good business section or could the mods tidy this up? this guy has asked alot of questions and i have respectfully answered them. i have in return asked him many valid questions and he has yet to answer one ! thank you guys in advance for your kind hospitality rx7forums!

[TENAZ]

should i start copying and pasting from all the threads in the good business section or could the mods tidy this up? this guy has asked alot of questions and i have respectfully answered them. i have in return asked him many valid questions and he has yet to answer one ! thank you guys in advance for your kind hospitality rx7forums!

Please Moderator of this Forum For any more information about this Individual,
contact the Administrator from the RX7club.com. for further reference.
Now If You allow it I can put the legal documentation that I have from the Court the same as I did on the www.rx7club.com and another that my attorney gave me.
http://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=951028 post #19
Thats the Answer he is looking for.
Its a PUBLIC RECORD .
The Moderator from that Forum just post today :
http://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=991332
This business is not allowed on this forum. They have screwed over literally dozens of people, some out of large sums of money. I am going to close this thread because we do not allow positive feedback threads about businesses that are banned from selling on here. A good feedback thread points others to that business, and as one of the moderators that handles classifieds issues in here, I can personally tell you that we have gotten a TON of complaints about them. Thats why they were banned.

I am very happy that you got your mani from them, but you should count your blessings. This is not the way Rob normally does business. One of our members actually sued him in court and won a judgment--a judgment that Rob is trying to weasel out of paying. Others have filed complaints against Rotary Shack with the CA authorities. I wouldnt trust this shop with a roller skate and two wooden nickels.

[680rwhp12a]

if your going to copy and paste from the rx7club it would be nice to put up all of the info.
a new thread from the good guy section today, yes today!!!!
Rotary Shack

user info....


papsmagu
All out Freak!
5 Year Member

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Trader Score: (13)

Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: South Florida
Posts: 2,475


Bought a manifold from him that i could not find anywhere else. He was able to source it for me get it polished and shipped to me in 5 days. overall great experiance. below are the pics of the manifold (Before and After polishing) He only charged me $25 bucks to polish it!

If you need some old school parts that are hard to find, giv him a call, he may be able to help.


http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y54/papsmagu/6portintakesimon002.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y54/papsmagu/6portintakepolished014.jpg

this guy is a long time member , had read all the B.S. and knew it was just that it was B.S.
and guess what? he is another happy rotaryshack customer and will continue to buy more parts from me!
do you know how many loyal customers i have on that forum? more than you will ever know..

[TENAZ]

It doesn't matter How many happy Customers you have Rob.
I can careless.
YOU HAVE SCAMMED A LOT PEOPLE IN THE RX7CLUB.COM
THATS WHY YOU HAVE BANNED.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/scammer

A fraudulent business scheme; a swindle.
tr.v. scammed, scam·ming, scams
To defraud; swindle.

Since you are playing games and lame excuses.
I tell you this since you are telling me I promote your business doing this
I will post your Scams in another Forums so you can have more customers.

[680rwhp12a]

you make no sense in every single reply in this entire thread. do you realize this? so sad.

oh, ill throw in another fact for you Ivan.... any vendor that cancels their contract with IB( the corporation that owns the rx7club) is automatically banned.. its their policy... would you like their contact info to verify? please stick to the facts not hearsay gibberish that's not valid in any way, shape or form. P.S. just because you type all your misspelled words in incomplete sentences in big bold type does not make it any easier for anybody to understand.

[TENAZ]

Understood.(No matter if I missspell some words I know the people understand me, they don't have the same Iq as yours).

Like you were operating your garage for many years without license.Now You got your license just last year in February 2011 but you still don't learn. Thats no lie is a Fact

[TENAZ]

oh, ill throw in another fact for you Ivan.... any vendor that cancels their contract with IB( the corporation that owns the rx7club) is automatically banned.. its their policy... would you like their contact info to verify?

I don't need to verify it because I know you were banned because you scammed people including myself thats is the simple true .

You didn't cancell no contract.

Or Should I put the words of the moderator to explain it better:
http://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=866147&page=3&highlight=rotaryshack post #59

Rob got banned because of several reasons. Complete and total disregard for forum rules, refusal to resolve ongoing customer complaints and issues, and just generally being a risk to other forum members that was not acceptable. Do business with him at your own risk, as Rotary Shack is no longer allowed to do business on this forum. Several people have paid him a lot of money and now cannot get their money back or what they paid for. Be very careful when dealing with this company.

[TENAZ]

Now you were caught in a lie again Rob any more excuses...?

http://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=866147&page=3&highlight=rotaryshack post #66

DrKillJoY
Administrator
Trader Score: (0)
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,501
Guys you need to stop conducting RS business here on the forums. This goes for the customers as well as Kerebrus.
If you want to discuss your problems with RS contact them directly. We will not continue to let RS business be conducted here.

[680rwhp12a]

if everybody knew my company, as you say"scams everybody" then why am i still in business? why is the shop full? why do i ship orders every day? can you clear this up for everybody? Why do members of the rx7 club continue to buy parts from me? Today I sent parts to Texas, Florida, North Carolina, Germany, Canada, New York and Australia to name just a few... if i was a "scammer" why would i bother sending anything? something does not make sense here buddy, you gotta admit it!

p.s. rx7roller posted one time in this thread and has not replied since. where did he go? back to his sheltered refuge , that's where! the way he dictates reminds me of Castro in many ways

[680rwhp12a]

Now you were caught in a lie again Rob any more excuses...?

http://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=866147&page=3&highlight=rotaryshack post #66

DrKillJoY
Administrator
Trader Score: (0)
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,501
Guys you need to stop conducting RS business here on the forums. This goes for the customers as well as Kerebrus.
If you want to discuss your problems with RS contact them directly. We will not continue to let RS business be conducted here.


uhh, i think there is alot missing here in this cut and paste buddy.. another one of your retarded riddles than nobody will understand.. ever!!

[TENAZ]

if everybody knew my company, as you say"scams everybody" then why am i still in business? why is the shop full? why do i ship orders every day? can you clear this up for everybody? Why do members of the rx7 club continue to buy parts from me? Today I sent parts to Texas, Florida, North Carolina, Germany, Canada, New York and Australia to name just a few... if i was a "scammer" why would i bother sending anything? something does not make sense here buddy, you gotta admit it!

p.s. rx7roller posted one time in this thread and has not replied since. where did he go? back to his sheltered refuge , that's where! the way he dictates reminds me of Castro in many ways


Why you avoid to make the payments you agree to..?
Why you scammed people..? It doesn't mean you scammed to everyone
It doesn't work that way,You see you haven't learn yet.
Why you operate your business when you want ..?
The moderator doesn't need to respond to your answer because he came here as a neutral party and then tell the rotary community how your conduct your business Thats all.

[TENAZ]

uhh, i think there is alot missing here in this cut and paste buddy.. another one of your retarded riddles than nobody will understand.. ever!!

I'm not your buddy Mr Scammer if people from here need to register in the RX7 club to be able to read those comments or if not to register in and then they can ask the administrator or any moderator why you were banned they will validate my posting
Is that simple no riddle is the TRUE ... No more lies ...!

[BoostedFC]

Well I have not been in here for some time & now I see this. Being a member of RX7club, Nopistons.com, Rotarycarclub.com & here I will say that I have heard many things about RS, both bad & good. Keep things respectful or bans will happen, make sure when either side makes a post to be specific & accurate. Name calling & unrelated bullshit will be deleted & if it continues say good bye. For those involved I don't need to contact any of the mods on any other forum, I'm aware of the complaints. This forum isn't what it used to be & is pretty much slow, so just state your case & be adults about it. When situations like this happen it should be brought forward so others know & make their decisions on their own.



Thank you

[Crocci]

Great topic
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