View Full Version : Ha JK guys i might just get rid of my fc..
rx7Noobie
02-21-2011, 12:09 AM
After i put a new bodykit n had the car painted white, when i got it the car apparenly was already lowerd, i bought 86-92 eibach ground control coil over sleeves and the front didnt fit rite, and the back was still too low so. Guess the car jus had springs replaces not lowerd, idk so we put the reg back springs back and we think there might be gas shocks we just have to put gas to raise the car up? Idk.. Also changing the front shocks i guess all the brake fluid leaked or something cuz the brakes dont work, i went to start the car to move it after this fail and it started cranking n the battery sounded like it was dieng, i kept turning the key,.. Then,.. BANG!! Idk what happend, maybe the jack listing the car bent the exhaust i have no idea so i just left it in my driveway where it was -,-
BoostedFC
02-21-2011, 02:39 AM
Take your time when you post, everything is jumbled. What exactly are you asking here? It seems that you have listed a number of problems & it also seems to me that you should not be working on the car. Maybe leaving the repairs to a shop is your best option. May I ask how you bent the exhaust when lifting the car, I mean really it doesn't take much to jack up a car. You shouldn't keep turning the ignition, if your battery is dead continuing to crank it is not going to do anything. On all the rest I'm just going repeat my suggestion & say leave the repairs to someone who knows what they are doing.
rx7Noobie
02-21-2011, 04:21 AM
Nah i was buggin out of frusteration, the bang was backfire from starting and immediately turning the car off then when i started it again it backfired, and need shocks that can be raised higher then stock height any suggestions? I was looking at tokico adjustable but idk if they do that.. Im looking to spend up to 450.
BoostedFC
02-21-2011, 06:38 AM
Adjustable shocks/struts will not raise or lower the vehicle, they just affect the dampening. To adjust height you will need lowering springs, a coil over sleeve set up or a full out coil over.
rx7Noobie
02-21-2011, 08:09 AM
I dont wanna lower it though i need to raise it.. =| 2700$ for air suspension is crazy, but cant you buy air/gas shocks and make them higher because the springs still touch both sides
black rocket
02-21-2011, 08:40 AM
What would your FC's primary function?
BoostedFC
02-21-2011, 03:36 PM
Coil overs either full or sleeve set ups will allow you raise the car or you can do the math & buy taller springs with the spring rates that you want from Summit or JEG's. I'm curious to why you want to raise the car above stock height?
black rocket
02-21-2011, 05:19 PM
That's why I asked what would the FC's primary function...
I think 4x4 chassis conversion has been done with FC already.
Who would want its center of gravity hightened to decrease performance and safety is mind boggling.
Another scenario would be; wanting to slap a 23" bling and with tires on didn't clear wheel wells, wanting to slap on some knobby tires, try to put on an incorrect offset wheels...
BoostedFC
02-21-2011, 06:04 PM
Not only effecting the center gravity, but creating too big of an area of air beneath the car. Suspension tuning is one key part to the final product. Seems to me that you have a lot going on with the car, pick one area & focus your time & money there. Then move onto the next, there's nothing wrong with getting a good deal, but sometimes it's better to wait to buy quality parts over throwing out money on parts because they are cheap. A car with a few quality parts installed right is far better then a car with a bunch of inferior parts incorrectly installed. Time & money are needed to have a good project result. Make a project plan & set a budget, try to stay within the limits of the two.
rx7Noobie
02-21-2011, 07:00 PM
I put a bodykit on and i need to raise it like two inches or so, and alright i guess ill try n find what the stock spring height is or whatever n find taller ones
rx7Noobie
02-21-2011, 09:13 PM
@boostedfc what do u mean by spring rates? The person before me apparently put tanabe springs on the car idk if there lowering springs or just stiffer springs, i was just going to put the tanabe springs ontop of the ground control height adjusters.. But the front adjusters are too small and dont go over the shock.. $400 wasted on useless eibach ground control
BoostedFC
02-21-2011, 10:01 PM
You can't use the Tanabe springs with coil over perches, they were not designed to work that way. Are you telling me that with the Eibach/Ground control coil & sleeve you can't get the car high enough? Not only that but what kit do you have that you would need to raise the car? Half of the people I see have the car to damn low & running the the wrong offset wheels with bodykits. I'm starting to worry about you & this project. When buying suspension pieces the spring rate is the amount of weight needed to compress the spring.
rx7Noobie
02-21-2011, 10:11 PM
Nope, the eibach front perchs didnt even fit over the shock and the back was still too low..
This is my bodykit http://www.jegs.com/p/JEGS-Performance-Products/JEGS-1-Coil-Spring-Spacers/1209859/10002/-1
these are my rims, they were on the car when i got it so im not sure what size they are i think 16s but not sure
http://www.xxrwheels.com/sportmax_002.shtml
and i looked on jegs and maybe i should put the tanabe springs back with these?
http://www.jegs.com/p/JEGS-Performance-Products/JEGS-1-Coil-Spring-Spacers/1209859/10002/-1
BoostedFC
02-21-2011, 10:33 PM
Wrong link to the bodykit. I'm not sure why the front sleeves would not fit, if I remember the rears can be different depending on the type of spring perch (brand of shocks).
rx7Noobie
02-21-2011, 10:44 PM
Idk but did u see those jegs spacers? Do u think i could just out those under the tanabe springs n be done?
rx7Noobie
02-21-2011, 10:44 PM
Bodykit: http://www.andysautosport.com/mazda/1986_1992_rx7/exterior/body_kits/ait%20racing/aitr00150201.html
BoostedFC
02-21-2011, 11:07 PM
The spacers will work if the the spring diameter is the same as the spacer. Still not sure why the need to raise the car.
rx7Noobie
02-21-2011, 11:16 PM
Lol, i got the kit put on and the car already had the tanabe lowering springs so now the kit is like 2 inches off the ground and i cant even leave my driveway -_- i bought the fc for 600 at a police auction and i got the bodywork fixed paint n bodykit i just need to fix the suspension wire the front signal lights and put in my new sparco seats and im registering it, btw the lights under the headlights dont wire to amything do they? The headlights r jus supposed to shine thru them?
rx7Noobie
02-22-2011, 12:56 AM
Alright i think i got this solved and my answer to my problems is: http://www.summitracing.com/parts/AFC-20192/Application/?prefilter=1. Opinions?
BoostedFC
02-22-2011, 01:10 AM
The lens below the headlights are the FTP (flash to pass) only the JDM ones actually have a light, USDM FTP the headlight shines through.
rx7Noobie
02-22-2011, 01:40 AM
Alright, and theres lights underneath those too, those do light up correct? Is that what the switch infront of the glove compartment is for? But do u thin these will work? http://www.speedwaymotors.com/AFCO-Adjustable-Coil-Spring-Spacer,23948.html?sc=WGB&utm_source=GoogleBase&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=GoogleBase. It says its compatable with 5"-5 1/2 springs (width?) i measure a spring from the front and theres a small width side thats 2 1/4 inches wide and the wider i think top side is 5 1/4 does that sound good? I need to find what i need and register my car asap ive been waiting tooo long
BoostedFC
02-22-2011, 02:01 AM
The blinkers are under the FTP's. I have never used the Tanabe springs & don't know the diameter of the spring. Whatever the springs diameter is find the spring the matching spacer for the diameter.
rx7Noobie
02-22-2011, 02:05 AM
...then whats the switch in front of the center constol, under the electric suspension sport n normal switches (which i have no clue how that works) but the measurements all work but it says with stock stub cars.. Whats a stub? Sorry about all the questions ive had the car since last summer im trying to get it on the road already
BoostedFC
02-22-2011, 05:31 AM
Not sure of what the button on the switch panel is, take a pic for us it's been awhile since I have seen one not altered. I'm going to guess that who ever owned the car before you disabled the auto suspension. It was an option that allowed the driver to choose between two settings.
rx7Noobie
02-22-2011, 07:05 AM
Idk i press normal and sport and nothing does anything, should the car lower? And yeah this sucks im not sure what to do, idk if spring spacer will even fit with the tanabe springs im gunna go to pep boys tmrw n ask about new springs hopefully bringing it back to oem will help if not the spacers will work w those
black rocket
02-22-2011, 07:20 AM
Those are the ones that equipped with auto adjust suspension (AAS). You've got ck all of your actuators as well as control unit.
rx7Noobie
02-22-2011, 08:09 AM
Ck?.... What?
black rocket
02-22-2011, 08:42 AM
On top of each strut/suspension there should be electrical units. If you want to ck for its operation you'll need to see if they all work first. How familiar are you with electrical? Connectors sux, wiring sux from the beginning and most connections are corroded.
Before you get into cosmetic aspects of FC I highly recommend correct problems by minimum of using contact cleaners and
remove corrosion before worrying about other stuff.
I've been replacing factory connectors & wiring with a quality weatherproof connectors and good quality wiring.
My personal opinion, if you have a solid foundation there will be much less headache down the road. That goes with vac lines and all the pluming to be replaced.
That's just me.
If you don't you WILL have countless issues that you'd want shoot your FC shortly.
Had to throw in my 2 cents!
BoostedFC
02-22-2011, 03:36 PM
When I said disabled the auto adjust feature I have a feeling the previous owner took off the actuators. Something you are not doing right man, I'm sorry to tell you. The Eibach/Ground Controls should have fit no problem to give you the adjustments you needed. Second something doesn't sound right about you car being 2" off the ground with the Tanabe springs unless someone cut the lowering springs. Third just my opinion at stock height the car with the kit is going to look a little funny. Most people who use those kits are looking for the aggressive stance. BTW pick up a shop manual.
rx7Noobie
02-22-2011, 04:15 PM
Idk i thought they should fit too idk, the lowering springs and bodykit make it too low and i dont think the electric suspensions too important? I dont need it and idk im either gunna buy spacers or new springs
black rocket
02-23-2011, 04:14 AM
My opinion, no.
rx7Noobie
02-23-2011, 05:35 AM
Update: went to 2 different stores n got there last two spacers in each stores.. I really hope the spacers raise it enough.. I just need enough height to leave my driveway!!!
black rocket
02-24-2011, 04:49 AM
Used to have the same prob when I had my 911!
BoostedFC
02-24-2011, 07:17 AM
Well hopefully everything works out for you man.
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